Unless you're being sarcastic, what games are MS "crushing"? I'm not saying it can't turn a profit, I'm arguing it's bad business long term and the industry and consumers will suffer as a result. @Would_you_kindly No I wouldn't be complaining about it because it would bring PS games to Xbox only gamers and/or other platforms to have access to some of the best games available on what you have Playstation owners would still get the 'best' console version if they only streamed their games to Xbox whilst Playstation owners get a 'downloadable, Local' experience. @Fiendish-Beaver It will be a Gamepass exclusive. Ns usamos cookies e outras tecnologias semelhantes para melhorar a sua experincia, personalizar publicidade e recomendar contedo. NOW whos the underdog?? . @Balosi I'm asking myself the same question, time to unsubscribe from the feed I suppose. Why would they? By making it exclusive to their subscription service, Sony would finally complyhowever that also looks like a monoply. Streaming services like GP are only affordable if the cash is coming from somewhere other than the subscribers as Netflix are finding out. Crossword Puzzles & Word Origins the relative popularity of UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, and how the winter season changes peoples feelings about romance and relationships. If Xbox was separated from MS and didn't have access to MS funding then the current GP model would be in the bin day one. The current U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power, who is the most dispositionally interventionist among Obamas senior advisers, had argued early for arming Syrias rebels. @__jamiie Totally agree, I am mainly an Xbox gamer but also have Switch, PlayStation and PC. Also, Microsoft is worth far more than $70 billion so stop claiming it's the same value. Cod will remain on a Sony machine for the foreseeable future. @neitan Yes Game pass was created to grow quickly before the competition jumped in meaning Amazon,Apple and Google why Sony think they are a part of that group and insert themselves into that role is beyond me. There must be a reason for that. They enable the Steam's and Epic's to run on PC systems. @thefourfoldroot1 embracer and tencent are far outpacing xbox in acquisitions with very little oversight. Today the GP can be wonderful for players, but in the long run it can only end well for Microsoft never for players. The franchise was crashing in quality anyway, every year it got worse. Ceres at 0 Cancer conjunct Mars at 29 Gemini would have been most obvious to you recently as the Sun crossed 29 Gemini through 0 Cancer. At the rate Microsoft is buying studios the only games that will be left to buy for Playstation will be the annual The Last of Us remasters. This was all a master plan by all publishers. It would make zero sense for Sony to allow it with 3rd party games included in the service especially since they got their own subscription service for those. A footnote in Microsoft's submission to the UK's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) has let slip the reason behind Call of Duty's absence from the Xbox Game Pass library: Sony and This truly shocking revelation has been hammered home through a statement that Microsoft made to UK competition regulator CMA, in which the tech juggernaut says Sony "has chosen to block" Game Pass on its platforms. There are a bunch of hypocrites that like to make out its only Xbox that are buying up studios/publishers, whilst Sony, TenCent and Embracer are out there doing the exact same thing, also with Sony that love to pay to keep games away from competition. Microsoft is not the only one acquiring other companies and really has nothing close to a monopoly. All the latest news, reviews, pictures and video on culture, the arts and entertainment. What is Sony going to do. Have Microsoft even made an offer regarding gamepass on playstation? You think third party would have loved to stay at $60? You are correct, @Somebody. Embarrassing frankly. But Microsoft playing themselves as underdogs is hilarious. 374. Nothing says "underdog" quite like a trillion dollar corporation! I'm not justifying my decision lmao. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. Schulman suggests you learn the value of the old adage A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush.. The "unity" thing from gamers has gotten weird, just say you like Game Pass and want Microsoft to gobble everything up because you think there's a fairly tale deal where it costs $15 a month to play the entire industry. Playstation Studios have most of the best developers in the world that could easily make a great shooter. They couldn't just be putting all the games that are on Gamepass on the PlayStation version - loss of sales, competing subscription service etc. It is about a monopoly hearing and ensuring a monopoly doesnt develop that can hurt consumers. Ceres is as important as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus or any of the other planets. @AdamNovice Lets hope Jim gets out there and says this publicly. I can't see why either group of FANBOYS would be upset if their precious games that their beloved corporations have PAID for are available elsewhere if they are also getting access to all the games from the other too. No added bonuses for PS owners? Sony could be doing more but the strength of its first party catalogue over Xbox speak for itself. Nothing will change for the people that spend 70 on a new release every year. I want an agressive approach from the competition to wake Sony up from their classic 'market leader' complacency. Buying multiplatform developers to keep products off the competition is so clearly not increasing choice, but in this age, some people are so unbeliebably blind they swallow all this, and you can see the usual ms apologists in here talking absolute bunk again.Such a shame people are so dumb. of the evidence - Evidence that is of greater weight or more convincing than the evidence that is offered in opposition to it. They do not know how to work otherwise, if not spraying the competition or taking it to themselves using brute force ie infinite money. And buy all the IP. I prefer to choose my games myself instead of a rotating library. @Sqush-Pare Xbox is the underdog to PlayStation. Such games as Plague Tale 2 though can still get a lot of money via Sony purchases though. @Jaz007 Of course the fanboys want Sony to make these kind of purchases. Why are you even reading it if that isn't to your taste. Microsoft winning this PR battle should be studied. Does it really matter? It's clear that people who think (not talking about you) they look weak do not have the capacity to understand companies true intentions (make money) and are simple minded that follow trends and are controlled by the media/corporations. They can also be played on your phone or internet browser. Everyone wants to pay 70 for new releases on their playstation and would always want ownership for their games*, *Unless of course they buy their games digitally, in which case they're actually just leasing a non transferable license, Sony isn't really concerned, they're just playing the game correctly. Lol at some of the ridiculous fanboy comments .for all of us who own both consoles let's just hope this goes through quick so we get to play more games for cheaper. I'm not into instant gratification at the cost of the future, even if it's just a hobby of mine. @Fiendish-Beaver The old its 'bad for the industry' arguement lol. basically just a go to line of ps fanboys who dont want to be classed as fanboys because they think it makes them sound impartial, @Keyblade-Dan "I cannot put into words he is much I want Microsoft to get the F K out of the gaming industry". Feel free to let out a sigh in the comments section below. With hundreds of PS4 games to choose from for so cheap secondhand I don't see the appeal. In reality how many games can you play at one time? As a gamer I'm totally open to the idea. @Would_you_kindly You're wrong. Makes no sense adding Game Pass to PlayStation when they won't allow PSN or Plus onto Xbox. These kind of acquisitions aren't good either way. gamers would be facing 25-30 per month to game. That was also done without the permissions of Atari though. If they want to give gamers a choice, perhaps they should allow PS Plus onto Xbox. Yeah I wouldn't be paying for the majority of the game's that is already on PlayStation. That's the point that seems to bother most PlayStation fanboys. "The holding will call into question many other regulations that protect consumers with respect to credit cards, bank accounts, mortgage loans, debt collection, credit reports, and identity theft," tweeted Chris Peterson, a former enforcement attorney at the CFPB who is now a law I'm positive Sony wants a piece of that pie is previously it was theirs. Xbox stop making consoles and start making games for PC and PlayStation (and maybe Nintendo). When he's not practising combos, he's usually getting lost in the latest 100-hour RPG, or, y'know, replaying The Witcher 3. This feels like the old days of Nintendo and Sega going after each other. @NateGoesLive yeah like why have netflix with Playstation video or Apple Music with Spotify , they're all competing platforms. MS will go as far as the regulators will let them in buying all of the big franchises they can to have an effective monopoly on gaming subscription services. . That's like Burger King walking up to McDonald's and saying "Can we move Burger King in your store". Console War 2 just in time for peak Cold War 2. Forget Call of duty Sony. Good for you. No company, no matter how big, will subsidise a loss-making branch of its company to the tune of billions. And here are todays Wordle and the Spelling Bee . Plenty of places list the scores of all the games, if your really THAT into games. And if you put gp on Playstation you have 3 times that at once. No, it won't be an Game Pass exclusive, @thefourfoldroot1. That's the point. I could buy an xbox today. And many, many market commentators, including Push, have said the same. This is exactly the same as how Microsoft are making Bethesda games Xbox exclusives? I love how they're choosing words in this one. Take the Plague Tale game; now whilst it is probably a AA game, it saw a great deal of success when it first released, and it was a fully 6-12 months before it went on to the Game Pass. Yes, but eventually like all monopoly cases they'll take a small hit and be fine. @Sqush-Pare this. Screw childish console war fanboy BS what they want and are trying to do is bad for everyone and I'm sick of people acting like this awful company with more money than god and have used similar monopolistic tactics to take over other industries are some sort of plucky underdog it's a joke. Especially with Bethesda games most likely being Xbox only. Microsoft is crushing it in games.". I think you are getting caught up in console wars a bit there. Was that a close partnership??? Crossword Puzzles & Word Origins the relative popularity of UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, and how the winter season changes peoples feelings about romance and relationships. Or are they only offering deals with 3rd party publishers on Game Pass for PlayStation? I've said it so many times having gamepass on playstation or Nintendo would literally only benefit Microsoft financially if Sony offers to put ps plus on the Xbox do you think Microsoft would want that lol. It won't happen,but imagine if the XB division was forced to separate from the rest of Microsoftsomehow I think the $1 XB live gold gamepass upgrades would suddenly stop!. 785. @Neither_scene Excuses, excuses. My issue is paying 1 per month and having access to games which cost hundreds of millions to create. Then games that are sold on the PlayStation store and in brick and morter stores, Sony, like MS, get 30% of the sales but when it's on gamepass who is getting that profit? Of course they want gaming to make money. Bought Bungie away from Apple to get Halo, and literally gave away consoles and lost money in their games business for a decade until they got equal footing. You don't make that kind of money without doing something right, and if that involves reducing the profits of developers, why are they trying to get their games on to the service? The annoying thing about this whole situation is that Microsoft is portraying Xbox as the scrappy upstart underdog and then using its other business revenue streams to fund the whole thing which have infinite money. Sony would be reduced to first party titles only if they made this happen. Some individuals trying to play like Sony's acquisition of Bungie is equal to Microsoft buying Bethesda & Activision AND keeping established IP's off of PlayStation is at all comparable is a sad and poorly thought-out comparison.Oh and trying to compare Sony making Timed Exclusive deals or getting Exclusive Content in games versus Xbox full-on gatekeeping Established IP's is an even stupider comparison. At least on PlayStation when I buy a game I actually put the time in to complete it. Like there is no comparison. C1 Advanced. That profit comes from the revenue the likes of CoD brings in, but also the revenue that Game Pass produces, and the mobile market. One without a game. They like people to think that its PlayStation vs Xbox. American Tomahawk Andersson & Copra Arno Bernard Knives Artisan Cutlery Axial Ayama Bamba Forge Bark River Knives Todd Begg Knives Benchmade Knives Bastinelli Knives Southern Grind: Jackal Pup - Black Blade - Black G-10 - Black Kydex Sheath Specifications Overall Length: 5.75" Blade Length: 2.8" Blade Steel: 8670M Blade Hardness: 58-59HRC. O Centro Universitrio Brasileiro (UNIBRA) desde o seu incio surgiu com uma proposta de inovao, no s na estrutura, mas em toda a experincia universitria dos estudantes. @The_Moose some indie developers have said that the money they receive for going to gamepass pretty much covers the cost of making the game so they are essentially breaking even before selling a single game. Investors just knowing this is crushing Netflix, and now they have to spend Disney type money to get even better content. Same as Gamepass, theyll plow more money in than their direct competitors could ever match in order to dominate subscription gaming (read most gaming moving forward). Very, very, different proposition. Developers and publishers WANT to be aquired right now. Paying $10 a month to dabble on two or three games a month? So to counter the many well made and varied arguments as to why GP is a bad for the industry, your counter argument is to call them fanboys. This is hilarious. But I also have PC gamepass which I use to play Xbox exclusives, which I gotta say, there aren't many that interest me. Let's ask the real questions. This is all in service of trying to convince regulators that Microsoft's $70 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard is a good thing for the industry. I'd like that. I think everyone is missing the point of Microsoft pushing gamepass onto Sony consoles. @truerbluer - True, and studios like Sucker Punch, Bend Studio, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Game, Insomniac Games, Bluepoint, Housemarque, Media Molecule & Firesprite primarily made games just for PlayStation, the exception here is really only Insomniac Games, however Insomniac Games never found much success when they did venture away from PlayStation, FUSE was a joke thanks in large part to EA's meddling, Sunset Overdrive sold less than 2 Million Copies across Xbox & PC AND Phil Spencer chose not to greenlight Sunset Overdrive 2 DESPITE Insomniac Games wanting & willing to make it, and their VR Games through Oculus didn't leave much of an impact, the only times Insomniac Games ever saw any real TRUE success is when they were glued to the hip of Sony/PlayStation,. I do think Sony's stance over Activision is going to motivate Microsoft to try and push through more exclusivity deals through acquisitions and 3rd party releases though. On this episode of Small Things Often, well explain why all you need is a good enough relationship.. View Transcript. They are imconpendent and would never be here today by their own merit. If you dont mind playing crap half baked games I guess . Also, Microsoft should really stop having a pop at Sony's business practices with PS Plus. Chances are if it was on PlayStation & Nintendo the games would only be playable via streaming with a small catalog if any to be downloadable on the hardware. I have no idea why would you call that being a fanboy. You also have to mention how sony games aren't as good as they say they are, plenty of times, like you have to convince yourself. @BAMozzy It's the truth. The idea behind this practice already used by Microsoft is to eliminate competition, understand to take Sony from the market or swallow it. It's only this generation that Xbox has started putting their games on Steam. "Sure Jan"! Otherwise no, it cant be done. sell your Xbox and blacklist them if they start to overcharge. As expected, plenty of salt in the comments . Now if you'll excuse us, we're going to continue buying up major studios to deny Sony games!". The war news has gone from bad to worse for Vladimir Putin over the past two weeks. But a version that was just the Xbox first party games? Is it true MS is just doing this to avoid monopoly accusations. Now, the sequel is going straight on to the service, no wait at all. Granted, a successful game might bring a lot of attention, but games (even small ones) still found success prior to Game Pass, and could just as easily do so now. @CapGod Tell us all where Xbox touched you? So Sony should sell their consoles at a loss for other services? I think gamepass and subscriptions like it are great for indie devs. Why would Sony want their main competitors service on their console? 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Microsoft are all about "choice" but they won't give PlayStation gamers the "choice" to play Hellblade 2, Starfield etc without needing Game Pass or sign up for Xbox. And then in few years they'll say something like oh well we did offer GamePass on PS. @Thenewguy no they wouldn't at all they'd want sonys first party games on the system but not any 3rd party games that they could get sales from or have on their own subscription service, @BAMozzy so if Sony bought a publisher like square enix & said to Microsoft put ps plus on your system & we'll let you have the square games via streaming you wouldnt be complaining about it over on pure Xbox lol. A good place to begin is to look back at that 24-48 hour period to see what occurred.. Halo is not the only Xbox franchise and you know that. Can't believe people are arguing over their favourite corporation. That means the impact could spread far beyond the agencys payday lending rule. Apple made a deal with the devil when Microsoft offered the same type of deal with Office when facing monopoly issues in the 90s. Is it really shocking Mr Ramsey? so Sony get all console sales. Microsoft starting to finally show there true greedy colors. This Friday, were taking a look at Microsoft and Sonys increasingly bitter feud over Call of Duty and whether U.K. regulators are leaning toward torpedoing the Activision Blizzard deal. Gamers do have a choice. I am very happy with the offering PS has, even much that I have now sold my Series X and there can be a paradox of choice when you have Game Pass and PS Premium. Won the most goty nominees and awards for that whole gen. !Sadly I doubt Sony will be able to stop itbut to keep pushing the ridiculous narrative that a Microsoft backed XB division is the underdog is laughable! It's not silly at all I think. MS are losing the quality war so are doing what they do best, buying up all the Devs it can in order to strangle the competition. Discover the gadgets you never knew you needed; In-depth reviews and new tech explanations; Subscribe in print, digital, or a great-value bundle! Heres todays Mini Crossword, and a clue: River thats the setting for Van Goghs Fishing in Spring (five letters). @RustyBullet Finally a voice of reason! Neither one of them give a [emailprotected]*t about you. Subs seems nice but over saturated. Halo, Gears, now Bethesda stuff and ultimately Activision? @Happyposter it's a playstation based site, what do you expect? Some things need to be clarified here. Sony should immediately add Game Pass if they want to survive. This goes for users and journalists. Seems like an easy response. @CapGod the worst was their E3 when Sarah Bond showed on stage a heart symbol with her fingers followed by crossing her arms in the air like an X, lol. Nobody. Let Plus go on to Xbox then. I don't give a damn about recycled cod since bo2. so they can exclude anyone who doesn't own a PlayStation from playing their games. Iranian security forces are attacking Kurdish opposition groups in northern Iraq. Sony would also have to provide a Dev Kit to MS owned studios - and I can't see them giving MS a heads up on what their future hardware plans are in advance to ensure the games are ported to their hardware. It's exhausting and we all know it's going through anyway. And since it will become a game pass game it will probably be getting worse like most likely with every Microsoft game. I don't know what's funny about it. No Dev is losing billions either but Xbox and its acquisitions are subsidised massively by MS, that's why my final point of Xbox being cut off from MS money would cause Xbox to dump GP because just like Sony it wouldn't be affordable. I don't care either way. If it ever would come to Playstation the only way would be a curated list of pretty much nothing but Xbox Game studio games I would think. Hi! Why would SONY want to give Microsoft more market share by using their PLAYSTATION player base? disgusting development. Microsoft is crushing it in games. They just sound a bit bitter like they want to dip into the PlayStations playerbase that didn't care enough to buy an Xbox for their service, "Sony doesn't allow Gampass on their platform! What do you make of all this bickering between Sony and Microsoft? Which is the future. @__jamiie They are the ones who made online gaming behind a paywall, they encouraged microtransactions in console games, tried to implement DRM baked into consoles, trying to take away the right to own games and now they're trying to buy out the entire industry when all you need to do to compete is MAKE GOOD GAMES it's not hard Microsoft are awful company and they are actively bad for gaming. Enter the email address you signed up with and we'll email you a reset link. I really hope the UK and EU put a stop to it. For me, with a mortgage and other bills. The same game is cheaper on Xbox. Nonsense. Where does a company that has always been in second or third place take 70bi to buy a single studio? That's right, not just PlayStation studios. Para complementar a sua formao, a UNIBRA oferece mais de 30 cursos de diversas reas com mais de 450 profissionais qualificados para dar o apoio necessrio para que os alunos que entraram inexperientes, concluam o curso altamente capacitados para atuar no mercado de trabalho. @Sqush-Pare So there won't be any advantage for Sony? It is also the most populated subnational entity in North America and the 34th most populous in the world. It sounds like the majority of people here don't like paying 70 for games either as there's a lot of comments taking issue with the fact that cod will likely be on gamepass. Yisus. @Fiendish-Beaver They've innovated and made things competitive.

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