Maybe its just pareidolia, but i think its a manmade object. Yup, I toot checked and her video came only after this post. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . And there have been some other unsolved murders in the same area where the girls were. How long does an AI correction take for you to do? OmgIm staring at this pic. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. There appears to be a visible roof-like structure above Kriss head. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. In the yellow circle could be just a leaf, but not in the red one. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. According to one web sleuth, the snaps taken on the camera a week after the girls vanished might have been taken with the flash to light up the path as they stumbled through the dark jungle. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. I speculate about potential reasons. I agree with you. In Central America, dogs arent usually seen as something to protect and cuddle. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. He wasnt walking with them. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. Thank you for your comment. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. I do not know. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. In 2020 the number of international visitors to Australia dropped to 6.7 million due . incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. ?If they were attacked by people immidiately after this, how they took the photos?? Who would do this, and why? If you would know (and read) every bits & pieces of this story, you would actually see that the they got lost theory does not hold up with any of the facts and evidence found, not at all, not one bit. Hi Chris, i heard of this case a few months ago and i read many articles about it. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? The timing of the photos is incorrect, the resolution of the photos was altered to remove detail (which is why the public only has poor quality photos) and sometimes the photos were different sizes/dimensions. That and the deleted photo make me for first time in my studies of this incident start to suspect foul play, but well never know. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. This story struck my heart. His . she does see something disgusting. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. I think that this is definitely a murder, because of the rucksack. Its disturbing. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. I think it would be nice for a botanist to take a look at the vegetation. You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. Then consider Kris and Lisannes parents when they trekked with a group along the trail, across two streams, until they reached a field with the disintegrating fence posts and the tall lone tree some hundred meters away. As for the wrong password entry. Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. Curious if people have found these specific locations and done some extensive testing and exploring in those and surrounding areas? I hope someday the family has answers. It is also possible that an unknown person, possibly the one responsible for the girls deaths, deleted the file for some reason but not the others on the card with a laptop in the middle of the jungle. Este rosto de uma jovem que est angustiada,aterrorizada sem saber o que fazer para se salvar. Ive kept comments on this article open for civil and respectful discussion. when are you putting a research team together?? There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. Europe is the world . Im always looking for answers. Thanks for all you are doing Chris. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. This girl was tortured before they killed her. And theyre gaining steam in recent years. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Did they become lostand fall down a cliff? They no longer had their phones or camera and made no emergency calls at all. They should be alive and flourishing today. This backpack suddenly showed up 2 months after the disappearing. It also contained Lisanne's camera and both of their phones. Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. Use soft language and leave out gory visuals in what you write. She turned around and they snapped a photo. Why are both her hands behind her back? To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. We have no police report to read which its self may also contain errors. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. But they are hurt and they are lost. Of course, there are always exceptions. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. The 29-year-old from Stockport vanished on 14 August near a beauty spot in Panama. Could the red object be a bird? Seems weird. The emergency calls still dont go through. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. . Rainfall probably washed the bag into the water. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc. The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. It was the last time anyone saw the women alive. Trials are too costly. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. On the original, her face doesnt look like that at all. Happy reading! To Jane I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Alex Humphrey disappeared . I think she is pointing, but at something else in another location. They had planned a trip in the forest the next day, on April 2nd, with a local guide. Hay incongruencias en fechas y horas de los testigos y de los registros de los telfonos y la cmara, pero lo que ms me ha inquietado es la foto 506. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? You cant see any blue sky behind the branches and the rock is in bright sunlight which bleaches out the colour. It took us quite some time to get there.". Thanks for your consideration with this comment. Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Cheers. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Maybe a struggle or fall? 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? Oliver, I just looked at your 1st link, and I can clearly see a human face in the red circle. Around 2 oclock. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. Most fingers seem to point to the Panama authorities, who have also been blamed for a poor initial search in the immediate days after the disappearance. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? Is the time that photo was taken known? Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. These photos dont have a lot of helpful information and the camera was tampered with. I do see the supports and I think thats manmade also. History is not a science but it can include some science. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. After frolicking in the sun and taking photos for a while they decided it was time to return home, BUT they had no idea where they entered the jungle so they could not find the way out of the jungle back go to the trail. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. None of the calls ever got through due to a lack of a signal. Shame! Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. Where did he leave them? On one hand, its more liberating and freeing. Do they know more than we do? Numerous families of disappeared family members have contacted me from my writing and the following is nearly always the sentiment they convey: Local authorities are unreliable, careless, slow to respond, even slower to take action, and they often hinder the familys own investigations. These photos all look very photoshopped. Perhaps incriminating photos existed on the camera before and new photos were taken to overwrite the cameras memory files, therefore preventing the old photos from being extracted from the cameras digital memory. There is no traces of them anywhere. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. Didnt they cross the line where it had a clear sign not to cross it? Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? 4. Have you managed to obtain a copy? I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. When I look at the picture I think I can see both her arms. How many tourists go to Australia? Why werent those outgoing calls being completed? In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. Debra Ann Velleman's husband, Anthony Velleman, another passenger and the pilot were rescued by Panamanian search and rescue teams. Fingerprints were not investigated. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. And one of the branches near the middle appears to have scales or a pattern not natural to a tree branch. . It could be that the taxi driver couldve called someone and given them a heads up that two beautiful young ladies had just headed up the Pianista alone. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. That way, no downloads are necessary. There are too many variables involved, so I dont speculate much about the dog. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. after studying the original photo, she is actually posing sticking her tongue out, in a slight hunched over salute, the light is hitting her hand, her pose and demeanor makes me believe it is Lisanne taking the photo. I knew there was a lot of interest in the case but I never expected to find a sophisticated group collaborating at this level. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. For Composer Drew Silva, Music is all About Embracing Life. There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. Im impressed how you were able to see the other things in the photo. Why did he leave them? The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? Can you provide more information about photos of the girls being in bad shape? Her whole body is facing towards the right in the picture, almost in profile to the camera, with even her right leg in front of her left leg (a dancer would tell you that her whole body would much more naturally turn to the left, away from the camera) and then only her face turning right, towards the camera, the upper part of her body following slightly. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. Phone records. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Minha Querida menina. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. Also, aserial killer might have stalkedtheir area at the time.