My english is not very good. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Judy, Im sorry about your relationship with your daughter. I dont know whether this situation is karma? The sixth and the eighth house are also karmic houses. My natal chart ruler is the Moon and his natal chart ruler is Mars. For instance I have a Composite Taurus Sun at 1-2 degrees in the 12th Conjunct Taurus Eros (also in the 12th at 4 degrees), and the Taurus Asc at 5 degrees. Lilith in 11th House Composite, Composite Lilith in 11th House With Composite Lilith in the 11th house, you can get along swimmingly as friends, regardless of the type of partnership. We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. thank you for post! And it KILLS ME! Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. Well, I m afraid I am precisely one of those people you talk about in the article , who experiment this weird illusion of being in telepathy with the unrequired love of their life. It shapes the relationship between two persons. I cant stop the regretful feelings. Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. When Saturn is conjunct the North Node it can be particularly ruthless in pursuing its goals. And yes, with Uranus squaring, the tendency would be to want to break away rather than face what is wrong. There are no connections with saturn to make it harsh. hi dawn. Nothing in astrology dictates your decisions. Natal Birth Chart Meaning. Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. VENUS IN HOUSE TWELVE Venus in the 12th house cultivates a spiritually profound form of love and a desire to experience love on a higher level. But, separate he has a Saturn Gemini 12th and I have a Mercury Scorpio 12th. What of mother-daughter pairs? Because thats what it feels like! Is this similar for composite ruler in 12th? Hes Gemini sun . Thank you in advance. Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. I just met someone who has their moon in 12th house like myself and im wondering if i need to investigate this more closely. Its pretty rare. venus all in the 12th house. We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. Just not what I wanted to hear. Illusions yes I know. Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. His 12th is in Pisces, along with his Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars. The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. He is a pisces/cap/aquar with cap moon in 12th house. I would need a full synastry to really answer your question. All that subconscious provoking of each other is very much a full time job and its preventing me from being successful in life and meeting a man that can offer the support i need to really fly. Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! It is SO powerful! Through counseling she has discovered that her pattern of deception and maintaining an emotional distance from me stems from childhood. It feels that we are very free together than alone. Look at poor Kurt Cobain, who is the poster boy for this aspect. I cannot really make that happen now I dont know why but Im still thinking that he is my faith or not, everything is very confused. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). Hi HGOf course, these articles cant contain every single exception, and the whole chart has to be taken into consideration. And youre so right, because there is something about the compo 12 th house ! There are 12 houses of Nessus divided according to the sun signs, such as the rst house belongs to Aries, the second house to Taurus, and so on. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. So sad! What the twelfth house demands of us always is that we give the ego a rest, but often challenges regarding the ego are exactly what we have to face with twelfth house planets. My boyfriend and I have 4-5 planets in the 12th house in our composite progressed chart. The house is famous for being the house of self-undoing, but it can also be the house where we find our fame and fortune. We tried to stop but we couldnt be in the same room aloneI know it sounds nothing more than two horny people getting together but it really wasnt the same..or was it? Me and my friend have composite sun conj. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. With Lilith so deeply involved, this relationship has a direct bearing on your feelings about your sexual power. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. A lot of native speakers make this same mistake, and worse. Lilith in the Twelfth House of Astrology (Explained) June 3, 2022 by Wisdom Tavern. Usually, life will present us with huge dilemmas that cause us to choose between the ego and the soul path. The trauma you have experienced can be in relationships. We feel that our twelfth house planets dont work the way our other planets do, or the way that same planet seems to behave in other peoples charts. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. I was heart broken all over again. When Venus occupies the 12th house, it highlights a more mature and sophisticated expression of love. Women may stay because they think, how the heck am i going to find a man Im this connected to? We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. Im afraid that you would need a full synastry reading in order to make sense of the situation for you and your wife. Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. Lilith here can even be drawn to cults. Your email address will not be published. However, Eros in the 12th may mean a less conscious eroticism drives the relationshipwe think we know what were doing but we may not, and may be subject to desires of all kinds. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for. I do use the Black Moon Lilith in my composites, but what she represents there is a whole article of its own. hi dawn The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? I had a karmic relationship with a guy for 6 years which ended badly. Am I right in deducing that this relationship is more of an initiation? along with Juno. And I learned a lot too. Its a damn shame, but I cant make him more a more spiritual person, just because our powerful connection together is deep and spiritual. Dear Dawn, Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. Or ? Our lives are silly and sublime at once. I think this is SO true . Looking forward to taking more classes with you in the future. Transit Mercury in the 12th House Meaning, Transit Birth Chart, Mercury Astrology Free Interpretations . 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. Your article is amazing! My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. But my heart and mind keep telling me to fight again. Struggling against our own unconscious is not an easy thing I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. Thank you for your insight. You need to work on bringing body and mind together, as a couple. Transit Neptune in the Composite 12th House. When transit Mars is in the composite 12th house, you may become aware of subconscious drivers and motivators in your relationship, and this can help you gain a better understanding of one another. I would like to help you, but you would need a full analysis of the charts to know what is going on with this 12th house energy. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! Only his Juipter is in the 12th, I have no planets there but also we both also have ceres and lilith in the 12th. Its weird weird weird . I feel that our connection is a long term one over many lifetimes. The 12th house has to do with summarizing and accepting all that has come before it, whereas first house planets are very pure, almost innocent, in their expression. You can use this to your . . Could I ask Your opinion? You are great!!!!!!!!!!! At all. Saturn and Pluto and Ascedant. i am deeply hurt but I am not angry with him. We feel that very beautiful in our life! We are still friends and well always love each other. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. Another concern is his Saturn and North node in my MC/IC and my Mercury/Mar (ruler of my 7th) in his Asc. 12th House : A busy 12th house is very difficult in a composite chart, since it's the house of the unconscious feelings and all things hidden, so there will be a lot of miscommunication between the two. It contains everything and nothing . I feel there is no Karmic tie to this person, my intuition leans more towards twin flame type status. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. The relationship is a very private one, we share many trips together, and special 12th house retreat time together. The south node lies there on the natal composite. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. Thanks so much Dawn. Thank you for this piece it is prompting reflection. However, humans are imperfect, and complete faith is hard to keep up all of the time. Those of us with composite 12th emphasized will be asked to step away from the mundane and step into the world of the extraordinary, where unlikely connections are day to day things. His Saturn rules his moon and his ascendant, so it is a prominent planet, and as I said, he has Saturn conjunct his north node natally. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. You mentioned that couples with 12th house emphasis usually come together for a specific purpose and once that is completed the relationship is destined to end (thats what I gathered anyway). In synastry, his Pluto is in my 12th conjunct my ascendent tightly, and I have nothing in his 12th. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. I am NOT usually like this. Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. I will look into it. Reply. We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. We have had such a difficult relationship. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) In the composite chart, the composite 12th house can show what may be hidden in the relationship, what may play out subconsciously in the relationship, the karma of the relationship, and what needs to be let go of.